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GET IT OFF YOUR CHEST - Has the human rights situation in Russia improved during Putin’s term of office?
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- Junit May 10, 2008, 18:12
- Sanjay, you making up stats now? How can 50% of Russians be in "dire" poverty when only 14% of people are below the poverty line (same as the UK) and according to the UN, 2% are "undernourished" which is only a little higher than places in Western Europe, and way down from the late 90s.
- Sam May 10, 2008, 02:10
- Now Sanjay, Poverty line is the same world over as it is a figure made by the world health organisation and not by an individual country.It takes in account all varients and is standard.
Where do you get these odd figures from? how about a link and please dont post a link to a site selling a video as you did last time:)
Are you trying to be funny by saying that there should be more orthodox native Russians? Russia is a federation of many ethnic groups of which Russians make up the largest but there are others.So whats wrong with the other races?
As for Rich people being in control of industry, well thats capitalism and not communism.
- Vijay May 9, 2008, 22:22
- More than 50% Russians are in dire poverty and destitution. -
Sanjay, here you go again...
Russians living under poverty, less than 14/15% right now...
Comparisons –
Russia - 15.8% (November 2007)
U.S.A. - 12% (2004 EST.)
Plus in RF the citizens get subsidized energy, lots have apartments from Soviet-Era free, better health care etc.
While no system is perfect, the matter of the fact is Russians today enjoy a life-style that is more or less comparable to advanced Europe or US, in fact according to some, they have more spending power that their peers Elsewhere...
More than 50% of household income is spent on food, whereas in US less than 10%.-
Well, the recent food price hikes will very much stabilize the whole situation, if those figures (rather doubtful) are correct...!
Russia is basically a rich country, only some policies are poor...
Hopefully, over time, this should be corrected too...!
- SrpskiCrnogorac May 9, 2008, 12:41
- "There was nothing illegal about the government of Chechnya between 1991 and 2000. Not illegal by international law nor by Russian federal law and moreover it was the closest that country has ever come to having a democratically elected government."
You can´t be serious. That "government" illegally declared independence and then began to kill Russian policemen, soldiers... It´s similar to the Kosovo case, because Chechnya was part of the Soviet Republic of Russia and had therefore no right for secession. And why are only referring to Russian imperialism and not to Turkish/Muslim? The Caucasus was always the front line between Russian expansion from the north and Muslim expansion from the south. Russia won many of the battles and they will do so in the future until all terrorists/"freedom fighters"/Muslim imperialists are destroyed.
- Sanjay May 9, 2008, 07:28
- Most of the fraudster-oligarchs are still controlling russian companies.
Energy, metals and agriculture sector needs to purge oligarchs to improve human rights.
Your figures on poverty are baseless since the poverty line is defined differently in US UK and Russia.
You cannot use different poverty lines in different countries. More than 50% russians are in dire poverty and destitution.
More than 50% of household income is spent on food, whereas in US less than 10%.
I believe russia needs more orthodox russians in its government and duma. They are native russians, and they would work more in national interests.
Neoliberal and antirussian policies are destroying russia. Russia needs to have strong welfare economy for next 30-40 years till it comes out of demographic catastrophe.
- Tiane May 9, 2008, 06:48
- variuos reports on the east and the west have applaused the outstanding performance of former president of Russian named Valadimir Putin who has served for two consecutive terms of presidency, and socio-economic outlook and performance is noticeable such as industrial expansion, innovation, infrastructure renovvation and construction, and trade expansion, macro-economy stability and so on, these will inevitably invest in human right by ways of development such as education and universal of health program, pension proegram and other social protection program.
Thousands of Afgan and Iraqi died because of war led by US is not a human right act at all.
- Vijay May 8, 2008, 22:06
- Soviet era rotting to Yeltsin era destruction, and after 8 years of Putin ultra liberalism, what next will Medvedev bring, signs are ominous...
Precisely SaNJAY, if all eras and all forms of Govt. are rotting, what exactly or what form of Govt exactly would be good or great for Russia?
Probably, no Govt. is what Sanjay wants or rather Sanjay fears...
Then what exactly does he desires...?
Lets hear from the horse's mouth, if he so conspires!
But what can one say about Russia? Its never ceases to amaze...
Well, can we say the same thing about Sanjay...?
What exactly doesn't cease to amaze me is that, its only 15/16 years of REAL DEMOCRACY for Russia as a country, so what's the big deal if one party has an almost unbeatable lead at the hustings and the popularity charts...?
People think they are best bet at this time and this era.
What’s the alternative has anyone really sat down and thought about it.
The commies OR
Would the people prefer a Kasparov, who probably is more familiar with English rather than Russian...?
I personally am really glad
OR
Would be glad if these alternatives never came to fruition and the UR lead continues, in fact increases...for one stable party is a lot better than 154 unstable ones...
OR
Constant chants and hunger strikes,
Or
even worse - a system where two parties fight but the same ideology wins again and again...
After all, here, the people are not hoodwinked...they know what's what and what's not...possible!
- Sam May 8, 2008, 20:38
- Sanjay what do you have against rich people? Communism is over and everyone has the right to get rich like in any country.
You posted "Human Rights may never improve in Russia because russian people are being deliberately kept in mass poverty and destitution"
I really do not want to go into figures again but if you remember I did before and the number of people living under the poverty line in Russia is almost the same as with the USA and the UK.
People are free to get rich as long as it is by legal means and that is their human right to do so.
Those that got theirs by looting the state funds are all hiding outside Russia claiming they are political refugees.
There are poor people everywhere,you cannt blame the rich for that,but you can ask them to help the community.
- Sanjay May 8, 2008, 06:29
- The goal of most human rights NAGOs is to accelerate the decline of russia.
Undermine territorial integrity, fuel social decline, attack financial and economic structure. That is the goal.
NGOs sympathetic to russia and working in its national interest may be counted on one finger.
Whoever in Kremlin has designed the hike in electricity and food prices are perfectly aiming to engineer social catastrophe and wreck havoc on population. The goal is to exterminate russia, so there will be no russians, hence no need for human rights.
Problem solved.
- Sanjay May 7, 2008, 21:58
- Human Rights may never improve in Russia because russian people are being deliberately kept in mass poverty and destitution.
A small band of gangster-oligarchs are sucking the life-blood of russian economy, rapacious looting of natural resources and laundering money through their banks.
The moment Putin came to power he loudly announced, "the oligarchs can keep what they have", in other words the oligarchs could loot as much as they want and keep it.
How can one expect human rights to even be discussed let alone practiced.
Next, Putin wants oligarchs to be responsible and spend on social programs, like asking a thug to help the family he just finished robbing.
With russia's population in massive and protracted decline, rapidly aging, families living hand to mouth, and no social security, it will be a miracle if there will be a russia left at all in 15-20 years.
Soviet era rotting to Yeltsin era destruction, and after 8 years of Putin ultraliberalism, what next will medvedev bring, signs are ominous.
May be another round of looting and another round of unilateral concessions.
By trumpeting yeltsin era as democratic and free, the financiers through their mass media do not hide their true intentions of what kind of russia they would like to see, a broken, poor, destitute and sick nation which can be broken at a monent's notice.
In any other law abiding country such oligarchs would have been executed or at least given life sentence as a first step to improve human -rights situation. But what can one say about Russia? Its never ceases to amaze.
- Robert (U.S.) May 7, 2008, 21:00
- Yes I think that human rights under Mr Putin have drastically improved. All the interviews with celeberties guest on RT validate this on the show. When they make the laws governing its citizens the keys is to leave alot of descression to the oppointed official(in other words don't write things in stone). Take the laws in california, the Business and Professional codes sections 16000-16004 (honorable discharged persons) who are physically unable to abtain a livelihood by manual labor may get a license with out cost. Now when one goes to get a business license at a city no one has ever heard of this law (convinent isn't it in such a patriotic atmosphere with the war going on and everything) Then when one goes to try to find out the requirments to qualify they send you to some kind of municiple attorney investment company right. Well they never answer your calls they have no address.When you try to contact a judge to find out the law definition of manual labour. They don't have time to talk to you. Most attorneys never heard of the law and dont really know the legal definition of manual labour because its not in blacks legal definition book. Now to me Manual labour doesn't mean you have to be disabled or they would have said disabled. To me manual labour means hard labour like digging a dich. or landscapeing. Well Im still trying to find the spirit of the law and what the law makers were thinking by manual labour.
- Norman May 6, 2008, 22:16
- After meeting with Marina Litvinenko and ex-KGB Major General Oleg Kalugin, I have some concerns about President Putin's human rights record. There were alot of deaths ( some murders) after President Putin came to power. While Russia has become more of a free market economy and deomcracy, it still sounds like the elite and the followers still. However, that has been Russia's fate for centuries!
- Sevodnya_Net May 6, 2008, 20:25
- "SrpskiCrnogorac
"...Akhmed Zakaev was minister for Culture in the government of Ichkeria"
So you already mentioned one evidence for what he should be arrested by Russia, namely because of being member of an illegal organisation which violates Russian
constituion/sovereignity "
There was nothing illegal about the government of Chechnya between 1991 and 2000. Not illegal by international law nor by Russian federal law and moreover it was the closest that country has ever come to having a democratically elected government.
Although it is perhaps less than meaningful to talk about legality or otherwise of institutions in the context of the "a-legality" (absence of the rule of law) of the imperial power, a situation which has blighted the lives of Russians and Chechens alike in that area for as long as anyone can remember.
Zakaev is an embarrassment to the Kremlin because he is a living proof that all pro-independence Chechens are not bloodthirsty Al Qaeda-esque would-be suicide bombers who eat babies for breakfast :-)
- Sevodnya_Net May 6, 2008, 20:08
- "if (Zakaev) returns to Russia to face charges and clear his name will have the whole world watching the case.So dont tell me he is afraid for his life."
That is very questionable: the case of Akhmed Zakaev is not exactly a cause celebre in the world (like Lugovoi, for example)
Why would Mr Zakaev journey to Russia in any case? To face what charge exactly? The previous one the Russians tried to bring fell apart at the extradition hearing stage. To date no further charges have been brought. Instead his name is unfairly bandied about every time Russia wants to complain to Britain about something and he is branded a "terrorist" by people who choose to believe the myth that Britain is hording cohorts of enemies of the Russian people when the reality is that this myth is used to suit the purposes of that regime.
The biggest enemy of the Russian people IMHO is the one shortly about to move his stuff across the centre of Moscow from the Kremlin to the White House :-)
By the way just in case people still think I believe that Russia can do no right and Britain no wrong (although you'd have been reading pretty selectively if you do) let me say I'm pretty disgusted at the treatment of Zenit football fans by the British authorities who to date have made not the slightest effort it seems to relax visa restrictions for a visit to Manchester. Instead we have been bombarded with press and TV items about British football fans' problems getting to Moscow (with a week extra to spare it might be added).
Maybe not a human rights issue on the scale of some we've been talking about but worthy of note all the same
- NickF May 6, 2008, 13:15
- Hello RT,
Has the human rights situation in Russia improved during Putin’s term of office?
I think, yes, it is.
Russians are now richer, safer and with more freedoms and perspective than ever.
Russia is now more independent than ever, and this is the mandatory prerequisite for one country to be considered as democracy.
Thanks to the international oil & gas prices or smart policies of President V. Putin and his team, one thing is for sure: mr. Putin's term in office was very, very positive one.
Thanks
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